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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246959970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246959970">(Jul 23 2021 at 10:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I feel like this ended up being forgotten. That said, I don't believe RLS is being actively worked on anymore and everybody uses rust-analyzer nowadays? Is my intuition wrong?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246960734" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246960734">(Jul 23 2021 at 10:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>My impression is that most new (and old) users pick RLS because there's no mention of rust-analyzer on the language website.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246984237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246984237">(Jul 23 2021 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>What's the status of that transition RFC?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246984309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246984309">(Jul 23 2021 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we're still only shipping RA as a preview on nightly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246984338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246984338">(Jul 23 2021 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>(in rustup)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246984830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246984830">(Jul 23 2021 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>RFC is accepted, <code>vscode-rust</code> has an older version of the integration that's currently broken, and the <code>rustup</code> version is reasonably up-to-date these days (less than a week old, depending on the bors queue). matklad said he was trying to find a way to move forward on this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/246986414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lukas Wirth <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#246986414">(Jul 23 2021 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="133169">matklad</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler.2Frust-analyzer/topic/Steering.20meeting/near/245700183">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Oh, one more thing from me -- no progress on "rust-anlyzer is a part of rust-lang/rust organizaion" , guess I'll do another round of pings</p>
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<p>This is the last we've heard in that regard so far I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247005041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247005041">(Jul 23 2021 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anecdote: On the Community Discord essentially no one uses RLS, and if people say they've got a problem with RLS they're usually told that they should just switch to RA because that's what's being worked on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247005359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247005359">(Jul 23 2021 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="203546">Laurențiu</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858/near/246960734">said</a>:</p>
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<p>My impression is that most new (and old) users pick RLS because there's no mention of rust-analyzer on the language website.</p>
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<p>Another anecdote: my brother just started learning rust yesterday and asked me whether he should use RLS or rust-analyzer. And I'd assume anyone asking gets told rust-analyzer, so there's probably more people picking it up first than you think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247011849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247011849">(Jul 23 2021 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, but you've reported issues to rust-analyzer. That's pretty uncommon. And I see a lot of new users posting on old RLS issues.</p>



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<p>I guess that's something the Rust Survey can help figure out.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247023284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247023284">(Jul 23 2021 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="203546">Laurențiu</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858/near/247011849">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Yeah, but you've reported issues to rust-analyzer. That's pretty uncommon. And I see a lot of new users posting on old RLS issues.</p>
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<p>oh sure, I know I'm the odd man out - my point was that even new users are asking which they should use (so they're not using RLS by default)</p>



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<p><a href="https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/12/16/rust-survey-2020.html">https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/12/16/rust-survey-2020.html</a> doesn't say much on the topic, while <a href="https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/04/17/Rust-survey-2019.html">https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/04/17/Rust-survey-2019.html</a> had RLS at 43% and RA at 15%</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247075658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247075658">(Jul 24 2021 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>We didn't report this in the blog post,  but here are the raw numbers from the 2020 survey:<br>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247075670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247075670">(Jul 24 2021 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>So rust-analyzer is definitely dominate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate%20RLS%20bug%20tracking%20into%20triage%20%2358858/near/247075681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Incorporate.20RLS.20bug.20tracking.20into.20triage.20.2358858.html#247075681">(Jul 24 2021 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>We will definitely be asking this again</p>



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